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Hippiesq's avatar

Totally agree. I emphasize that there should be no child transition, including NO medical interventions to appear the opposite sex and NO social transition. As you said, children and teens should never be shamed for their interests, ways of expressing themselves, or general levels of masculinity or femininity. Instead of telling effeminate boys they are girls and then going out and buying new clothes and letting them grow their hair, how about assuring a boy there is nothing wrong with dressing differently than most boys or having long hair or playing with Barbie dolls? Same for masculine girls. They don't need anything other than acceptance.

For teens, some may need therapy if they have strong self-hatred connected to their bodies, but they should also be re-assured that they are fine as they are, and allowed to express themselves however they like w/o medical interventions and without social transition. For adults - 25 and up - my position is that these extreme cosmetic interventions should not be outlawed, any more than we would outlaw other extreme cosmetic procedures, and they can socially pretend they are the opposite sex in general (except as noted below). However, in addition to assuring that the person seeking these interventions is mentally stable, there should never be an indication that this is a medical intervention. They should be given the full list of effects and side effects and potential problems, including the unknowns, and allowed to do this if they want to. It should not be covered by insurance/Medicaid because it is not a medical treatment. Nobody who has such cosmetic interventions should be discriminated against - fired, excluded from housing, prevented from marrying or adopting, disrespected or physically harmed. However, no man - regardless of cosmetic procedures - has the right to enter women only bathrooms (though some will because they "pass" and are stealth, as has always been the case), locker rooms and showers, women's prisons, women's domestic abuse shelters, rape crisis centers, homeless shelters, or participate in women's sports. That's it.

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Rblarp's avatar

This is a a succinct and accurate distillation, thank you! I especially appreciate where you highlight the difference in Wu's opinions on child transition in boys vs. girls. This disparity jumped out at me, and Wu seems absolutely thrilled to chime in on the phenomenon of girls transitioning being something different from boys. I agree that it is (mostly and historically) a different phenomenon but as time goes on, the contagion aspect has almost certainly bled into some of the boys' experiences. Beyond that, I sense a dismissal in Wu's tone of the level of distress that girls are experiencing, that makes transition an attractive option. I hear in it the completely self serving view that boys with gender distress are suffering something "real" where girls are are just going through a phase. It tracks with Wu's general attitude toward women (unless those women offer a potentially lucrative platform). Thanks again to you and Nina, for enduring Wu's behavior, it brought to light the underlying misogyny that I can't unsee.

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